"2018 推句 05 - 10"의 두 판 사이의 차이

2018년 7월 9일 (월) 22:16 판 (원본 보기) Julian Butterfield (토론 | 기여) (→‎Poem 5 : (Kyrie)) ← 이전 편집		2018년 7월 10일 (화) 18:58 판 (원본 보기) Ewa Rzanna (토론 | 기여) 다음 편집 →
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−	==='''Poem 5 : (Kyrie)'''===	+	*Discussion Questions:
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		+	==='''Poem 5 : (Write your name)'''===
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−	Spring water, fills all <ref>The literal translation is "four ponds," but I understood this to refer to the four directions and, by extension, all ponds.</ref> ponds,
−	Summer clouds, many wondrous mountain peaks.	+	*Discussion Questions:
−	Autumn moon, raises bright splendor,
−	Winter mountain ridge, distinguishes the lonely pine.<ref> This is the first stanza of Tao Yuanming's poem ''Four Seasons''.</ref>	+	==='''Poem 7 : (Write your name)'''===
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−	+I tried to maintain the sense of a poem by separating  the topic of the line (ie/ summer clouds) from the description with  commas. Is this too fragmented? Would it be preferable to the readers if I connected the two clauses? (ie/ Summer clouds are many wondrous mountain peaks)<br />
−	(YO) If we follow the parallelism, "being many" applies to the clouds rather than to the peaks, no?<br />
−	+This poem (the whole quatrain) is attributed to Tao Yuanming 陶淵明 (365-427), but many have suspected that it was by Gu Kaizhi 顧愷之 (ca. 345-406). According to the ''Yiwen leiju'' 藝文類聚 (a Tang-dynasty ''leishu'' 類書 compiled by Ouyang Xun 歐陽詢), theses lines were selected from Gu Kaizhi's "Shenqing shi" 神情時 [A song for spiritual emotion], although slightly different—the last line had "cold pine tree' instead of "lonely pine tree". ("晉顧凱之神情詩曰春水滿四澤夏雲多奇峰秋月揚明輝冬嶺秀寒松摘句," ''Yiwen leiju'', Vol. 3.) This quatrain, as a whole or parts of it, have been used and augmented by several later poets as homage to Tao Yuanming.
−	(Kyrie) I can't quite seem to detach "being many" from referring to both the clouds and the mountain peaks. To me the are many and each is a peak hence the clouds make many peaks. How could it be translated to specify that "being many" applies to the clouds but not the peaks?
−	[Julian] If you simply used "peaks" instead of "mountain peaks" here, I wonder if this would clear up the poem's connection between clouds and peaks without needing to replace the comma with "are?"	+	==='''Poem 9 : (Ewa)'''===
		+	----Spring is the head [the first] of four seasons
		+	Human beings are the soul of the myriad of things.
−	==='''Poem 7 : (Okyang Chae-Duporge)'''===	+	Water, fire, wood, metal and earth
−	The moon becomes the candle of the universe,	+	Humanness, righteousness, propriety, wisdom and trust.
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−	The wind makes the mountains and rivers a drum.
−	The moon becomes a fan without handle,
−	The stars are made of the beads scattered from a severed tassel.
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−	+ We have discussed how to handle the parallel of 為 - 作 alternation in 1-2 and 3-4. The difficulty is in the seemingly shifting use of 作 ('make, create'). I wonder if we can understand 作 to mean something like "to create a feel, image, or semblance of"?<br />
−	+ 絕纓珠 is literally "beads of severed string" or "beads of which the string is cut".
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	==='''Poem 9 : (Ewa)'''===		==='''Poem 9 : (Ewa)'''===
−	----	+	----Spring is the head [the first] of four seasons
−	Spring is the head [the first] of four seasons
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	Human beings are the soul of the myriad of things.		Human beings are the soul of the myriad of things.
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	Humanness, righteousness, propriety, wisdom and trust.		Humanness, righteousness, propriety, wisdom and trust.
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−	+(YO) Translating 靈 as 'soul' is a good try—somehow it sounds better than 'spirit of myriad things' equated to human beings—but I must mention for a record that almost all scholars so far have translated it 'spirit' or 'numen' and it is almost as if they have avoided 'soul'.	+
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2018년 7월 10일 (화) 18:58 판

Original Script

Translation

(sample) : Young Kyun Oh

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Poem 5 : (Write your name)

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Poem 7 : (Write your name)

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Poem 9 : (Ewa)

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Spring is the head [the first] of four seasons

Human beings are the soul of the myriad of things.

Water, fire, wood, metal and earth

Humanness, righteousness, propriety, wisdom and trust.

• Discussion Questions:

Poem 9 : (Ewa)

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Spring is the head [the first] of four seasons

Human beings are the soul of the myriad of things.

Water, fire, wood, metal and earth

Humanness, righteousness, propriety, wisdom and trust.

• Discussion Questions: