2018 童蒙先習 14 - 17 - 편집 역사

Jelenagledic: /* Passage 17: Jelena Gledić) */

2018-07-16T13:26:40Z

‎Passage 17: Jelena Gledić)

2018-07-16T11:21:57Z

‎Passage 17: Jelena Gledić)

2018-07-16T09:52:29Z

2018-07-16T09:49:26Z

‎Passage 14 : Petra Sváková

2018-07-15T15:07:45Z

‎Passage 15 : (Julian Butterfield)

2018-07-15T15:04:12Z

‎Passage 15 : (Julian Butterfield)

2018-07-15T14:26:35Z

‎Passage 17: Jelena Gledić

2018-07-15T03:30:31Z

‎Translation

2018-07-14T23:17:01Z

‎Passage 16 : (Write your name)

2018-07-12T11:14:28Z

‎Passage 14 : (Write your name)

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 *Discussion Questions:
 + For 肩隨, I found the following (likely much later) reference: 感時留別從兄徐王延年從弟延陵詩：「小子謝麟閣，雁行忝肩隨。」 (唐, 李白) Would this maybe make "follow closely" a better translation?<br />
-(YO) I think 'follow right behind the shoulder' to indicate the literal sense.
+(YO) I think 'follow right behind the shoulder' to indicate the literal sense.<br />
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-+ For 肩隨, I found the following (likely much later) reference: 感時留別從兄徐王延年從弟延陵詩：「小子謝麟閣，雁行忝肩隨。」 (唐, 李白) Would this maybe make "follow closely" a better translation?
++ For 肩隨, I found the following (likely much later) reference: 感時留別從兄徐王延年從弟延陵詩：「小子謝麟閣，雁行忝肩隨。」 (唐, 李白) Would this maybe make "follow closely" a better translation?<br />
 [[Category:2018 Hanmun Summer Workshop]]
 [[Category:Intermediate Training Group]]

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 #端 in 造端 has the possible meanings of either a beginning or an end (in the specific sense of an extremity). Is a successful marriage so stably figured in Confucian literature as the ''basis'' of a 君子's approach to the world, or is it ever discussed as an ultimate achievement (or is there some degree of fluidity in the native reading of this phrase)?
 #Could someone clarify for me the grammatical effect of adding 하여 after 敬? Thanks!<br />
-+ (YO) 承 in "承其夫" is carrying/holding (Mathew's dictionary gives "receive, inherit"; Lin Yutang dictionary, "receive from above" or "continue") rather than serving (LYT has "serve" but in somewhat specific compounds).
++ (YO) 承 in "承其夫" is carrying/holding (Mathew's dictionary gives "receive, inherit"; Lin Yutang dictionary, "receive from above" or "continue") rather than serving (LYT has "serve" but in somewhat specific compounds). <br />
 + How about "comfortable" for 安?
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 *Discussion Questions:
++(YO) 以 as in "以帥其婦" and "以承其夫" indicates the second actions (leading the wife and upholding the husband) are to be done by first fulfilling "respecting him/herself" 敬其身 as necessary condition (i.e., the sense of "by doing so").
 ==='''Passage 17: Jelena Gledić)'''===
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	*Discussion Questions:		*Discussion Questions:
		+	+ (YO) Let me just remind you that 以 as in "夫敬其身以帥其婦" indicates "...with which he leads his wife".

	==='''Passage 15 : (Julian Butterfield)'''===		==='''Passage 15 : (Julian Butterfield)'''===

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 *Discussion Questions:
-#端 in 造端 has the possible meanings of either a beginning or an end (in the specific sense of an extremity). Is a successful marriage so stably figured in Confucian literature as the ''basis'' of a 君子's approach to the world, or is it ever discussed as an ultimate achievement (or is there some degree of fluidity in the native reading of this phrase)?<br />
+#端 in 造端 has the possible meanings of either a beginning or an end (in the specific sense of an extremity). Is a successful marriage so stably figured in Confucian literature as the ''basis'' of a 君子's approach to the world, or is it ever discussed as an ultimate achievement (or is there some degree of fluidity in the native reading of this phrase)?
 + (YO) 承 in "承其夫" is carrying/holding (Mathew's dictionary gives "receive, inherit"; Lin Yutang dictionary, "receive from above" or "continue") rather than serving (LYT has "serve" but in somewhat specific compounds).
 + (YO) 以 as in "以帥其婦" and "以承其夫" indicates the second actions (leading the wife and upholding the husband) are to be done by first fulfilling "respecting him/herself" 敬其身 as necessary condition (i.e., the sense of "by doing so").

← 이전 판		2018년 7월 15일 (일) 03:30 판
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−	*Discussion Questions:	+	*Discussion Questions:<br />
		+	+ (YO) 承 in "承其夫" is carrying/holding (Mathew's dictionary gives "receive, inherit"; Lin Yutang dictionary, "receive from above" or "continue") rather than serving (LYT has "serve" but in somewhat specific compounds).
		+	+ (YO) 以 as in "以帥其婦" and "以承其夫" indicates the second actions (leading the wife and upholding the husband) are to be done by first fulfilling "respecting him/herself" 敬其身 as necessary condition (i.e., the sense of "by doing so").
		+	+ How about "comfortable" for 安?

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-==='''Passage 16 : (Write your name)'''===
+==='''Passage 16 : (Kathy Lin)'''===
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 ==='''Passage 15 : (Write your name)'''===

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-==='''Passage 14 : (Write your name)'''===
+==='''Passage 14 : Petra Sváková'''===
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 ==='''Passage 15 : (Write your name)'''===