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=='''Original Script'''==

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=='''Translation'''==

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 *Discussion Questions:
-HS: 亦因是也: Translating the clause as “[This] too is following ‘this’” makes sense when considering the passage immediately preceding this anecdote (''Zhuangzi''; "On Making Things Equal," 5:) 物無非彼，物無非是。自彼則不見，自知則知之。故曰：彼出於是，是亦因彼。
+HS: 亦因是也: Translating the clause as “[This] too is following ‘this’” makes sense when considering the passage immediately preceding this anecdote (''Zhuangzi''; "On Making Things Equal," 5:) 物無非彼，物無非是。自彼則不見，自知則知之。故曰：彼出於是，是亦因彼，彼是方生之說也。
-“There is nothing that is not a “that”; there is nothing that is not a “this.” One cannot see oneself as a “that,” but if one knows oneself, one knows what it is to be an other. That is why it is said, “That arises from this, and this also relies on a that.” This is the explanation of how this and that are born in the same instant.” (Eno Translation)
+“There is nothing that is not a “that”; there is nothing that is not a “this.” One cannot see oneself as a “that,” but if one knows oneself, one knows what it is to be an other. That is why it is said, “That arises from this, and this also relies on a that.” This is the explanation of how this and that are born in the same instant.” (Eno Translation)<br />
-HS: Can we take the 之 of 聖人和之以 to mean humans by extension?
+HS: Can we take the 之 of 聖人和之以 to mean humans by extension?<br />
 HS: I added the "at the center" to 天鈞 to give a sense of being above the small, petty scale of humans, a common theme across the ''Zhuangzi'' first explored in the ''Peng'' bird passage, the opening lines of the Inner Chapters.

@@ 40번째 줄: / 40번째 줄: @@
 *Discussion Questions:
-亦因是也: Translating the clause as “[This] too is following ‘this’” makes sense when considering the passage immediately preceding this anecdote (''Zhuangzi''; "On Making Things Equal," 5:) 物無非彼，物無非是。自彼則不見，自知則知之。故曰：彼出於是，是亦因彼。
+HS: 亦因是也: Translating the clause as “[This] too is following ‘this’” makes sense when considering the passage immediately preceding this anecdote (''Zhuangzi''; "On Making Things Equal," 5:) 物無非彼，物無非是。自彼則不見，自知則知之。故曰：彼出於是，是亦因彼。
 “There is nothing that is not a “that”; there is nothing that is not a “this.” One cannot see oneself as a “that,” but if one knows oneself, one knows what it is to be an other. That is why it is said, “That arises from this, and this also relies on a that.” This is the explanation of how this and that are born in the same instant.” (Eno Translation)
-Can we take the 之 of 聖人和之以 to mean humans by extension?
+HS: Can we take the 之 of 聖人和之以 to mean humans by extension?
-I added the "at the center" to 天鈞 to give a sense of being above the small, petty scale of humans, a common theme across the ''Zhuangzi'' first explored in the ''Peng'' bird passage, the opening lines of the Inner Chapters.
+HS: I added the "at the center" to 天鈞 to give a sense of being above the small, petty scale of humans, a common theme across the ''Zhuangzi'' first explored in the ''Peng'' bird passage, the opening lines of the Inner Chapters.

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 ==='''Student Translation : Hector Sanchez'''===
-[We] put under strain our intelligence by making [things] into one yet we do not know if they are [already] the same. This is called “three in the morning.” What is meant by “Three in the morning?” It means [the following:] The monkey master was giving out acorns saying: “Three in the morning. At night, four.” The crowd of monkeys was all angry. He said: “This being so, then, [let us have] four in the morning and three in the afternoon.” The crowd of monkeys was all pleased.
+[We] put under strain our intelligence by making [things] into one yet we do not know if they are [already] the same. This is called “three in the morning.” What is meant by “Three in the morning?” It means [the following:] The monkey master was giving out acorns saying: “Three in the morning. At night, four.” The crowd of monkeys was all angry. He said: “This being so, then, [let us have] four in the morning and three at night.” The crowd of monkeys was all pleased.
 Words and meanings were not damaged, yet happiness and anger were [lit. became] used [by the monkey master.] [This] too is following “this.”  Therefore the sage harmonizes them [the monkeys] by means of disputes and comes to rest at the [center of] Celestial Scale. This is called the “two paths.”
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 “There is nothing that is not a “that”; there is nothing that is not a “this.” One cannot see oneself as a “that,” but if one knows oneself, one knows what it is to be an other. That is why it is said, “That arises from this, and this also relies on a that.” This is the explanation of how this and that are born in the same instant.” (Eno Translation)

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 |Genre =
 |Type =
-|Author = Zhuangzi
+|Author = 莊子(''Zhuangzi'')
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 |Source = 《莊子.齊物論》

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 {{Primary Source Document3
 |Image = 2019조삼모사.jpg
-|English =
+|English = Three in the morning, four in the evening
-|Chinese =
+|Chinese = 朝三暮四(''Zhao san mu si'')
-|Korean =
+|Korean = 조삼모사(''Josammosa'')
 |Genre =
 |Type =
-|Author =
+|Author = Zhuangzi
 |Year =
 |Key Concepts=
 |Translator = [[2019 JSG Summer Hanmun Workshop (Intermediate)#Participants | Participants of 2019 JSG Summer Hanmun Workshop (Intermediate Training Group)]]